Bay Area Royal Rumble 1

February 26, 2009 6:00 AM

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In preparation for the Affiliate Team competition, several of the San Francisco Bay Area affiliates got together for Bay Area Royal Rumble 1 at Diablo CrossFit. CrossFit Oakland, CrossFit Solano, CrossFit Unlimited, CrossFit One World, and CrossFit Santa Clara showed up with teams of four or five athletes. The heat was on!

200 Box Jumps
200 Deadlifts
200 Thrusters
400m Run with 20lb vest
4 Rope Climbs
50m 2-person Tire Carry

CrossFit Oakland took it. Next!

Royal Rumble video ... [wmv] [mov]

2min 57sec

PS Anyone see an opportunity for judging ROM at these Rumbles?

15 comments on this entry.

1. Ridge wrote...

February 26, 2009 8:12 AM

How exactly do the reps work? Just curious. Each person should be expected to complete what? How does a team know when to move to the next exercise?

P.S. Looks like fun!

February 26, 2009 8:37 AM

These kinds of events are great for giving people an opportunity to practice judging as well as competing (in addition to being fun and a great workout). People need to get used to being told their rep doesn't count whether they agree or not and not get flustered or distracted. And judges need to get over the inclination to let things go, not because I like being an ass, but because judging consistancy is more important than whatever standard we decide to follow.

If I were judging I would take another look at some of the box jumps. Maybe some of the deadlifts were less than fully upright? Those are hard to judge because some people maintain a exagerated lumbar curve at the top of a DL which makes it appear like their hips aren't open. A very difficult thing to judge.

Not being an ass, just answering the question at the bottom of the post about using this as an opportunity to judge ROM. One of the most interesting aspects of the games is that they have to choose events based partially on their ability to fairly and consistantly judged. There are fewer movements we do that fit that catagory than one would think.

3. dees wrote...

February 26, 2009 9:57 AM

i hate trying call people out, but compared to the last fran video, the rom on some of these lifts were terrible....at the beginning, can the team in the back stand up at all on the box jump or DL?

4. Ryan Brown wrote...

February 26, 2009 10:39 AM

I'm with you, Dees. Some of the teams seemed to have really solid ROM but some (The athlete in the red shirt doing box jumps in the background for the first minute or so) were abysmal. I'm amazed that reps like that were counted with that many talented, experienced CF athletes and coaches in the room. A lot of thrusters weren't locked out at the top and I definitely saw some DLs that were barely getting past the knees.

February 26, 2009 12:34 PM

This event was put on with about 5 days notice, for free, etc, so we didn't have time to organize judges or whatever. That's why we are calling them "Rumbles" instead of competitions. We figured we'd let the gyms police themselves. . .and well. ..you can see the result in the video.


Eh! It was 'jungle' rules anyway. No trophies. No metals. Just some bragging rights and the experience of going to a team competition. And Beer.


As far as the rep rules were concerned. You could mix and match the reps between your members as much as possible. One person could do all the deadlifts for example. The only restrictions were that only two people from your team could be going at a time, and they were never supposed to be doing the same movements at the same time (although some teams got this confused). People were also supposed to complete the reps in sets of 10 to aid in counting.

We also let people field teams of 3 - 5 members. No male/female restrictions. Teams of 3 did 150 reps of each movement, teams of 5 did 250 reps. The results showed that teams of 5 had an advantage because even though they had additional reps, the ability to have 3 people resting instead of only 2 meant that they got 50% more rest for only having to do 1/4 more work.


Next Rumble at DCF on March 14th! Any affiliate is welcome.

-jj

6. Will wrote...

February 26, 2009 2:34 PM

After watching the video, I must agree that the ROM on many of the reps were quite disappointing. Even though it was just for fun, there's a reason why there were judges there, and not counted on the honor system. Outside of the Pro judges at the games, I find many judges at these affiliate challenges extremely timid about keeping people honest. I believe there's nothing to be afraid of. Hold them accountable, or don't bother having judges.

That being said, DCF is a great group of folks, and if you ever get a chance to see their new box, be sure to make the trip.

7. Alex wrote...

February 26, 2009 2:41 PM

Major, moajor ROM issues in this video. It felt like a legit rep was the exception, not the rule. And if it didn't matter much and only for bragging rights, why even have judges and count on the honor sytem?
Outside of the games, I find the judges at these affiliate challenges to be far too timid on calling people out. It'll all bite you in the butt come the games though. A judge won't count a bad rep and ask you to get it right next time. Limited ROM = 0 reps, period.

February 26, 2009 8:01 PM

My post says: "we didn't have time to organize judges or whatever".

I am not sure why people think there were judges there.

THERE WERE NO JUDGES.

Anybody you see in the video with paper or a clipboard was probably just helping keep track of reps. Not judging.

Frankly, I was disappointed at the form from many gyms (even my own), and I lost my voice trying to yell over the din for people to do correct reps.

I do consider it an interesting study of what happens to people's form when they are really competing (instead of playing along by themselves), and there is nobody but their mates holding their reps accountable. Reminds me of classes where you and your best friend swap quizzes to 'score' them for the teacher.

Maybe people will be a little more form conscious now that they know that their faults will be highlighted on video.

Next Rumble there WILL be tighter tolerances.

And I will have a bull horn.

-jj

9. Justin wrote...

February 26, 2009 8:59 PM

Looks like it was a great time.

JJ - Don't take the attacks on ROM personally.

10. CraigH wrote...

February 26, 2009 9:08 PM

It was a blast. It was the first one, too. We'll get better at them.

Yah, jj, you are a little sensitive...especially since your chest never touches the ground on pushups.

February 27, 2009 9:38 AM

Great event, short notice, good times.

As far as "Oakland taking it"...um, no. Only one team finished faster than the DCF team I was on, and that was Khalipas team of 4 guys (beat us by about 30 seconds!). The team that had 2 men and 2 women on it with the best time was not CFO, it was our Diablo Crossfit team (me, my wife Jasmine, Darren, and his wife Meg). Can't wait till the next one...3,2,1, GO!!

February 27, 2009 10:10 AM

F-You Craig!

At least I don't have "J-Lo" squats.

-jj

13. Tony Budding wrote...

February 27, 2009 12:03 PM

Stavros,
In terms of announcing the winners, I just went by the information at the end of the video (which I believe was made by CFD, was it not?).

February 27, 2009 2:08 PM

Tony,
Just a little banter back and forth...as far as the numbers, yes, according to those, CFO was the winner. While trying to figure that out after the rumble was no easy task! I was just pointing out that my team was the only with 2 women/2 men, thats all. You're right in terms of the "outright" winner.

March 1, 2009 9:18 AM

Heh. DCFers are sore losers.

-jj